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Sano- 07-22-2007
Qatama
This is the Qatama thread. Vowels: a = /a/ o = /o/ u = /u/ ` = /?/ Between vowels and /@/ between consonants Plosives: t = /t/ d = /d/ k = /k/ g = /g/ q = /q/ (or /X/ as a final) Affricates: j = /tS/ or /dZ/ or /Z/ (any of these can be used and there will be no confusion) Nasals: m = /m/ n = /n/ ng = /N/ Trill: r = /r/ or the Approximant /r\/ Fricatives: h = /h/ tl = /t_K/ Approximants: l = /l/ y = /j/ and u = /w/ before /a/ I am far from a master phonologist and hardly a grammarian but this is the language as best I can describe it. The word order is OVS and it is a mostly isolating language relying heavily on particles and word order. A few pronouns to start: ta = I / me ta`aq = we (exclusive) taka = we (inclusive) ga = you gahan = you (formal/polite, used in both singular and plural) gaj = you (plural) na = he/she/it nada = he / him naya = she / her nara = they / them Next time I'll post the numbers. -Qang A note: Please understand that, while being precise in regards to pronunciation is important in order to provide a teaching standard, Qatama is very forgiving: People may vary their pronunciations quite a bit and still be easily understood. Correcting others' pronunciation is considered extremely rude. Note: Edits and corrections are in red. Numbers: ogo = n. number, v. to count om = zero, nothing , none ong = one , single to = two mo = three oko = four do = five no = six oq = seven tong = eight noq = nine man = ten tan = hundred ngan = thousand To form ordinals place the particle nu after the number. To form multiples the suffix -a is added, with seven and nine being irregular, i.e. o'aq seven-times, and no'aq nine-times. Fractions are form by using the adposition aj meaning of/from. ong aj to = half (lit: one of two) oko aj do = four fifths Higher numbers are constructed as follows: man ong = eleven man to = twelve man mo = thirteen to man = twenty to man oko = twenty-four tan to man oko = one hundred twenty-four mo tan mo to = 332 oko man do ngan no oq tong = 45,678 Other helpful words: aja = all / every toa = twice / double ya`aj = many / much / a lot daya = few / a little / a bit m`hu = less / fewer / v. to subtract m`ha = more / v. to add anha = some Here is the Qatama color chart. Edit-2: I changed the chart to better reflect the colors listed. color -- aga black -- oga blue -- muga brown -- myoga clear -- huga dark -- on fair, blond -- anyaga gray -- tlaga green -- namuga orange -- konaga pale, light -- un pink -- koyuga purple -- komuga red -- koga white -- uga yellow -- naga Household Form, Family Form The duties of the household are divided up by gender. Women cook food, wash clothes and see to the children. Men work within the clans and in the fields. Men also perform repairs about the house and do most heavy manual labor. Large families are typical with as many as seven or eight spouses and as many as twenty children. Children normally live with their parents until age 18 for boys and 20 for girls. At that point, they may move into a guild, join the military, serve aboard a ship, marry into a family or choose some other path. In agricultural areas, it is common for them to stay on and help with the farm. Birth - Beliefs, Customs Qatama have a gestation period of 11 months. Unwanted pregnancies are terminated through the ingestion of a mildly poisonous herb. Children - Discipline, Education, Recreation Children are educated in groups by village scholars. In the larger cities, specialized academies exist. Discipline is harsh. Recreation and games usually have an educational theme. Children are taught that strength of will is as important as strength of body. ___________________________________________________________________ Now a bit of vocabulary. man = kang woman = mung Mr., sir, gentleman... = -han Mrs., Miss, Ms., ma'am, lady... = -hana name / to be called = ata person = kong family = tanga clan / tribe = tang relative = tangru father = kangha mother = mungha brother = taja sister = munu boy, son = taj girl, daughter = mungu aunt = mungla uncle = kangla niece, nephew = tajum grandfather = kara / kangra grandmother = mura / mungra cousin = tajal / munul husband = kang wife = mung marriage / to marry / to be married = muhuka divorce = muhula in-law = ajum baby = umun child = umun teenager = umunha adult / people = kanga friend = maja enemy = ujuna elder = ongoq The difference between kangra/kara and mungra/mura is one of familiarity/respect. If you know the elder well enough you would simply refer to him/her with kara/mura, but in times when the goal is to show respect and tact, kangra/mungra are used. adanuq = wealthy one ahaj = to act justly ahamuj = trustworthy, reliable ahanu = truthful one aj'n = father of many alaj = he who has not been conquered alal = clean, pure alhaj = brother of muhaj amaru = time keeper amu = venerable one amuda = seemed destined to die at birth amudan = prayerful man amuja = fearless amul = determined one amun = bowl maker amuq = wise warrior amutan = born during father's absence amutaq = spiritual strength anar = gold, metal, money ataruq = family protector ayaja = born of beauty ayanu = beautiful one dahajun = seeker of knowledge damaq = brewer of doq (Qatam alcohol) damar = coin maker dar = curly hair d'han = one who is clear d'har = born in the morning gamun = he comes in peace garaq = tailor gataq = pure of thought g'manal = born of the sea g'mul = mighty giver gohan = from the forest gomuq = patience goraq = born under the moon gomu = burning torch goru = stands in judgement gotaq = protector gulan = warrior from the north gutan = a hundred lives gyomu = from the desert gyomuq = lord of the desert gyoraq = determined, decisive gyota = farmer gyotaq = man of courage kagul = aspiration, ambition kaguma = green eyed kamul = flute maker kataq = respected one k'han = eternal wisdom kumuq = old warrior kyong = quiet one kyung = faithful one mahan = the lion malaq = city builder maraq = tool maker maruma = old traveler maruq = sharp arrow mataq = great advisor mudaq = mountain dweller muhaj = peaceful monk muruq = wheel maker mutaq = lord of the mountain nagaru = yellow-haired, golden nahaj = thick rain clouds naharu = yellow skin najan = wood carver nala = generous spirit nomu = wise one nor = he says, he does nula = kind, gentle ogra = from the cold ohaj = leads with heart ohan = guide ojan = lion like okuga = red haired omura = from the west ota = strength otagu = one who yawns otaq = strength of spirit otla = stone worker otoko = manly qadaka = warlike qang = noble ruler :P qayal = festival, holiday qra = invader qral = inspiration, rage, frenzy qrala = stubborn qram = auspicious, lucky qrang = calm warrior qur = peaceful ruler quraga = panther passing across tahaj = warrior protector takaga = good swordsman takan = brave one tala = white skinned tamuja = crusher, breaker tamul = man of victory tamun = tent maker tanaka = noble swordsman taq = strong one taqra = brother of taq tayala = esteemed, distinguished t'haruq = brave leader tlal = brother of tala tlang = from the island toroq = middle son uhaj = wise monk ulal = eagle of the sun ulha = wise, intelligent ulhan = wise one umul = praiseworthy uyaj = old spirit ______________________________________________________________________ And here is some additional vocabulary: A picture of what a guma might look like. Clothes; apron -- okada belt -- alaju boot, shoe, sandal, sock -- noga cloth, rag -- oka coat, shirt -- guma cotton -- dohuq dress, skirt -- kuha'a earring -- myanuq glove, wristband -- m`dan hat -- hanaka jewelry -- myar necklace -- ongraya rank, insignia -- tal ring -- yuj shield, armor -- gon shorts, trousers, pants -- akama silk -- onyom suit -- kuhaga to wear clothes, clothing -- kuha tunic -- go'om underclothes -- okuaha undershirt -- gumahu uniform -- kuhan wool -- ulana Particles Articles and such: al = general article: al is most often used to mark a word as a noun, this is because almost all verbs can also be nouns, and sometimes adjectives ayu = self, reflexive: Always placed after the pronoun doj = just, only nga = not, no, negative: Always begins a sentence or phrase except when it negates a single word ngun = negative past tense o = honorific article oha = yes, affirmation oj = son of oya = vocative particle oyo = diminutive article oyom = about, approximately qa = question particle: Always ends a sentence or phrase ru = agentive particle ung = past tense uq = future tense uj = plural particle kya = imperative particle Note: tense particles always immediately preceed the verb they modify Note 2: this list will probably be modified more than a few times in the weeks to come. Some vocab for time. occasion, time -- ama past -- ung present -- naku future -- uq second, minute, instant -- njam hour, time -- ama`a midday, noon -- ona aj maq midnight -- ona aj naq day -- maq morning -- omaq evening -- onaq night -- naq week -- galam month -- alam year -- ngaq decade -- mangaq century -- tangaq millenia -- nganaq era, epoch -- amahaq spring -- angja summer - angra autumn -- angam winter -- anguma Adpositions Spacial at, to -- naj in front of -- gonha behind -- unaj from, out of -- aj in, into -- ogu outside -- kogu above, over, on -- unga below, under -- gora between, among -- onda by, beside, up to -- nuj toward -- naj away (from) -- ngaj along -- oru across, through -- oguda around -- nuj opposite -- odoq Temporal at, to -- na`aj before -- gonha after -- unaj since -- no`o during, while -- ajama until -- uqra Relational of -- aj about, concerning -- aj for, in order to, benefiting, on behalf of -- nja by (actor, author) -- aj with, in company of, using -- noj without, except -- ngoj opposite, against, in spite of -- odoq approximately, around, close to -- oyom I made this, I think it looks cool, almost like square Chinese...maybe. Sentences can be arranged vertically or horizontally. A silly little sample sentence. ;) Very Basic Verbs to be = muq used as a copula and often omitted from speach become... = odoj cause to... = nonga let, allow, permit to... = toqra must, should, need to... = kuj want to, intend to... = nung can, could, am able to... = toq aj Qutam muq ta = I am from Qutam. uq odoj nada Qan aj Qutam = He will become Qan of Qutam. ung na nonga ta = I caused it. nga na toqra = It is not allowed. kuj moto ga = You must remember. nung moju ta = I want to read. ga am toq ta = I can injure you. My consuming obsession with Qatam phonotactics has led to me making this chart: ~95% of all Qatama words can be made using this chart. Here are some harsh words in Qatama. aqja = usually pronounced /aXtSa/ = general invective, exclimation, epithet; More or less the harshest word in the Qatam lexicon to date, it is used when you want to initiate a violent responce from someone. It can mean several things, including shit/fuck/bitch/cunt/twat etc. As you can see, not a nice word. nguka = This word is closest in usage to bitch, but culturally has a significantly different meaning, it alludes to any creature that eats/rolls around in it's own feces. d`na = this word simply means genitals, it's usage is closest to words lick ass, asshole and dickhead in English, saying it with a pronoun following it is like saying fuck (person indicated) q`na = general invective, may indicate surprise, this word literally means feces and it's usage varies from region to region within Qatama, it is most often heard in the phrase 'q`na qa' analogous to saying 'what the fuck?' doku = this word is probably the least harsh, it means 'idiot', but it can have a much more intense usage when coupled with other words in this list q`hara = derogatory epithet, used to describe a anyone who is considered less than worthy of being Qatam, insignificant; beneath notice; useless due to worthlessness t`ha intensely, This word not only intensifies whatever is being said, it turns the whole phrase into an invective. aj muda = quite literally 'of trash' / 'of garbage', used by those afraid to use the other terms mentioned dogra = v. to cuss, insult / n. a derogatory term, an insult *Some of this has changed, but is for the most part still accurate. <amuQ> the four tribes are; Qatama, Guang, Ajra, Tam'q <amuQ> each one is made up of 20-30 clans <amuQ> each clan has about 40-50 families in it <amuQ> there are also "orders", which are political and sometimes financial groups <amuQ> an order is roughly equivalent to a clan <amuQ> both being lead by a 'lord' <amuQ> the Qatama tribe is spread all over the Qatam continent and on no others <amuQ> the same can be said for the Guang, however they are much fewer in number than the Qatama <amuQ> the Ajra are also not as numerous as the Qatama but they can be found on all continents <amuQ> the Tam'q are the smallest tribe and can be found on Qatama and Qor Ma'ar only <amuQ> the Tam'q are considered to be barbaric by the other tribes and often territory disputes occur due to the Tam'q not really caring where they end up after a hunt <amuQ> each tribe does have it's own dialect, the Ajra being the most removed from canon Qatama <amuQ> the Guang being the oldest of all the tribes they are often the most powerful(politically) during negotiations over territory and resources <amuQ> the Guang often act as moderators between the other tribes <amuQ> *mediators <amuQ> the Guang tend to be Shamanistic in their beliefs <amuQ> the Tam'q are similar in this manner <amuQ> the Ajra tend to be more philosophical and spiritual <amuQ> while the Qatama tend to be very pragmatic <amuQ> the Qatama have the largest standing army in the Empire, the Guang consider every adult male to be a 'warrior' <amuQ> the Tam'q are taught at a very young age to use weapons for survival and warfare <amuQ> the Ajra do not believe in war as an answer yet they do have a very modest military <amuQ> the Guang and Qatama have education systems in place and often they have great success in mass education <amuQ> the Tam'q have no standard educational system <amuQ> the Ajra tend to educate in the home, and have relaxed standards <amuQ> agriculture is important to all except the Tam'q <amuQ> farming is difficult but is considered to be an honest and worthy endeavor by all <amuQ> every city/town has a marketplace of some size <amuQ> culturally, business is only conducted during daylight <amuQ> it is considered a dishonest act to do so during darkness <amuQ> art is important to all tribes <amuQ> however the Tam'q display this mostly in clothing and beads <amuQ> the Ajra are considered to be the most artistic usually having large murals and decorative architecture throughout their cities/towns <amuQ> Qor Ma'ar is populated by non-Qatama tribes as well <amuQ> the Q'tos, Tsung, Xadim, Etsuma and other minor clans <amuQ> these tribes are considered nomads and enemies of the Qatama empire <amuQ> they are not interacted with unless they provoke they Qatama <amuQ> they each have their own culture and language, some of which are distantly related to Qatama <amuQ> the Q'tos being the most violent and volatile of them all <amuQ> the Xadim have been seen as the most powerful, and have actually tried to unite the nomads in an attempt to invade and destroy the Empire <amuQ> there has been little success though, as the Empire has spies and warriors that patrol Qor Ma'ar <amuQ> Tohanju is populated by the Toqa and Ritan(u) as well as a few Ajra <amuQ> Tohanju is treated in a unique way, the Empire does not recognize the tribes as legitimate but there are some 'closed door' dealing that does occur <amuQ> mainly involving bartering and trading for goods that can not be found on Qatam <amuQ> this is done quietly and with 'official' approval from the Empire <amuQ> there has been war with Tohanju in the past but a 'tentative' peace is now the norm Ok, here is a recording (.wav file) of this list. apron -- okada belt -- alaju boot, shoe, sandal, sock -- noga cloth, rag -- oka coat, shirt -- guma cotton -- dohuq dress, skirt -- kuha'a earring -- myanuq glove, wristband -- m`dan hat -- hanaka jewelry -- myar necklace -- ongraya rank, insignia -- tal ring -- yuj shield, armor -- gon shorts, trousers, pants -- akama silk -- onyom suit -- kuhaga to wear clothes, clothing -- kuha tunic -- go'om underclothes -- okuaha undershirt -- gumahu uniform -- kuhan wool -- ulana And this is from your sig; "If your beard's in fire, water yours." kya guja ogua m`ga uja goku ogu imperitive-particle water beard 2P-pos if fire in To be or not to be, that is the question. nga muq aq muq al kuja muq qun My every step should be a dance. moka daru aja gun m'ta Nothing shall come from nothing, speak again! aj om muq om kya muta m'ham Did you really tell her that her cat is dead? myong tomoq m'naya ung naj na muta ga qa Looking into the sun will harm your eyes! uq am aj ongo m'ga ngo naj mul It was in this river that we threw your drunken uncle. kangla doqla m'ga ung ogu kun gujra taka nahaq how they might all appear on one sheet ngumja /NumZa/= impermanence uq mongha ngumja nung ta future to-understand impermanence wish I. I wish to understand impermanence. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- tojla /todZlQ/ = sword, long blade mun al tojla mongla na /mun Ql todZlQ moNla nQ/ to-use the sword confused 3per-sin He/She does not know how to use the sword. tojla comes from toj meaning warrior, this is based on the Qatama belief that the weapon is an extention of the warrior. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- gaha /gahQ/ or /gaxQ/ = flora, flower, foliage kura kun moq gaha aya to-have this place flora beautiful This place has beautiful flora. gaha is often used in only the general sense, but is also the root for most flora words, e.g. gahanu = flower, gahaq = tree, g'haj = bouquet doguna /dogunQ/ = bar, tavern ogu al doguna ung taka inside the tavern/bar PAST 1PL We were in the tavern. doguna is combined from parts of doq /doq_h/ = beer, gula /gulQ/ = wine, and t'na /tvnQ/ = liquor the old way to say it would have been: doq gula ma t'na moq = beer wine and liquor place --------------------------------------------------------------- qumuta /qumutQ/ = battle, war al qumuta aj mo man ngaq the war of three ten year The Thirty Years War. the root for qumuta is kumu /kumu/, meaning to fight -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- moj /moZ/ = writing system/alphabet moj aya kura qatama writing system beautiful to-have Qatama Qatama has a beautiful writing system. related words: omoj /omoZ/ = writing utensil moja /modZQ/ = to write, word mo'oj /mo.oZ/ = calligraphy moju /modZu/ = to read, book -------------------------------------------------------------------- danu /dQnu/ = eating utensil al danu nang naya = /Ql dQnu naN naja/ the/a eating-utensil to-need her/she She needs an eating utensil. ------------------------------------------------------------------- unuq /unuq/ = hair kun maq unuq m'ta n'ha na this day hair my cut it I got my hair cut today. related words: unuqla /unuqlQ/ = hairless, bald unuqra /unuqrQ/ = hair style, type of hair also related to: anaq /QnQq/ = head and anuq /Qnuq/ ear(s), to hear words relating to the head have the "-n-q" root --------------------------------------------------------------------- ngam /Nam/ = 'not yet complete' tense marker naj tagu ngam mua ta to/toward store/market not-yet to-go 1PS I have not yet gone to the store. other tense markers include: uq /uq/ = general future ung /uN/ = general past huq /huq/ = not yet begun ngun /Nun/ = negative past ---------------------------------------------------------- m'naq /mnQq/ = a particular style of food/cuisine. It is characterized by thick and pungent flavors. Chili, pepper and garlic are usually necessities in this cuisine. It come form naq /nQq/ meaning night an the possessive prefix m' /m/ or /mv/ because this style of food is mainly only eaten for the evening meal. aj qutam muq al m'naq ru of/from Qutam copula the/a M"NAQ agentive-particle The m'naq chef is from Qutam. --------------------------------------------------- guqra /guqrQ/ = thank you ga t'ha guqra /gQ tvhQ guqrQ/ 2PS very thank-you Thank you very much! other related words include: nguq /Nuq/ = welcome, said to someone upon their arrival nguqla /NuqlQ/ = you're welcome, said in responce to guqra aguq /aguq/ = please, only used when asking for something guq /guq/ = civility, politeness, to be kind -------------------------------------------------------------------- ogo /ogo/ = number, digit, amount, quantity ogo kura ga qa /ogo kurQ ga qQ/ amount to-have 2PS INT-PART How much/many do you have? --------------------------------------------- koto /koto/ = drum; generic Qatama term for many different styles of drums. Drums in Qatama are an important aspect of the culture, necessary to art and ceremony, imbued with symbology and history. In Qatama, a drum is part of every festival, encountered in every temple and an integral part of most musical and theatrical performances. It might be said that koto sounds the heartbeat of Qatama culture. Koto reaches deep into the psyche of Qatama from ceremonies honoring the ancestors to celebrations of planting and harvest. Relationships between people as well as individual pathways are created through the vibrations of koto and carried to places of spirit that are beyond definition, beyond words, to truth and knowledge. Drums from all traditions have a spirit that is alive and vibrant. This spirit comes alive through the joining of wood, skins, metal and other materials that come from the trees, plants, animals and the earth. The spirits of earth, air, fire and water become the grandmothers of the finished drum, unseen but always remembered. When all of these elements come into harmony and relationship, with good thoughts and actions, a new life is brought into the world. al koto nung mon ta the drum(s) to-want to-learn 1PS I want to learn (to play) the drum. other related words: kotoq /kotoq/ = rhythm onaja /onadZQ/ = the wooden sticks used to play koto drums ---------------------------------------------- tla'a /t_Ka.Q/ = boar, pig, swine kanu ma kuda tla'a koj nada to-hunt and to-prepare-for-eating pork to-like 3PSM He likes to hunt for and prepare boar for eating. --------------------------------------------------------- uda = window, opening, portal oko uda kura kun tamu lit: 4 windows to-have this dwelling This house has four windows. -------------------------------------------- muj = table, desk, bench, counter moq muj mga qa locative table 2S-POS INT-PART Where is your table? ------------------------------ kamun = parent, adult noj kamun m'nada ruq moju al taj with parent 3S-M-POS clause-part to-read the boy The boy reads with his parent. it's a pretty cheesy pic, but I was in a hurry and it was the best I could find... ----------------------------------- nuga = to scream, yell, be loud nong naj nada ung nuga ga qa reason to/at he/him past scream you question Why did you scream at him? --------------------------------------- gyoha = farewell, good-bye kalha = hello, fromal greeting kalhaj = formal greeting to a group aka = Hi!, informal greeting ---------------------------------------------- omo = tradition omo mtaka muq kun tradition our copula this ----------------------------------------------- d'la = angle; An angle is the figure formed by two rays sharing a common endpoint, called the vertex of the angle. Angles provide a means of expressing the difference in slope between two rays meeting at a vertex without the need to explicitly define the slopes of the two rays. Angles are studied in geometry and trigonometry. d'lam = right angle; An angle of π/2 radians or 90°, one-quarter of the full circle is called a right angle --------------------------------------------------- a Qatama deck of cards, called m'ru This is five suited deck with cards 0 to 10 in each of the five suits, plus two extra cards, though in practice only one of the extra cards is used in most games (57 cards in all). Each of the suit cards is marked with the symbol and color of the suit , and a stylised Qatama number denoting the rank in each corner. ---------------------------------------------------- doku = stupid, ignorant, dumb t'ha doku naya very stupid 3psFEM She is very stupid. ------------------------------ kayata = party, festival, feast kayata daru taka party suggestive 3PPL We should have a party! ------------------------------------------ gyoda = /G\jod@/ = crazy / insane konga gyoda /koNaG\jod@/ some|one/person/body (is) crazy Somebody's crazy. ----------------------------------- oyuha = /ojuha/ = imagination, to imagine, dream aj naya oyuha ta of/from 3PSfem dream 1PS I dream of her. yonga = /joNa/ = eyelash, eyelid uj yonga taha kura nada PL eyelash big/large have 3PSmas He has big eyelashes. gujra = /guZra/ = ocean, lake, river; any large body of water utahu ma aya muq al gujra deep and beautiful is the ocean The ocean is beautiful and deep. note: utahu can be; vast, expanding, grand, enormous syllables q' qa qo qu -q k' ka ko ku kya kyo kyu g' ga go gu gra gya gyo gyu t' ta to tla d' da do m' ma mo mu mya myo -m n' na no nu nja nju -n nga ngo ngu -ng ja ju -j ha hu ya yo yu la -l ra ro ru -r ' a o u red = can not appear in the middle of words blue = can not begin words (rare exceptions) vowel placement; 'o' can not follow any other vowel in the subsequent syllable except 'o' example: omoq - correct example: amoq - incorrect Qatama is isolating, and has little to no morphology one exception is possesive pronuns ta = I, me while m'ta = mine, my syntax: OVS or patient/topic verb/verb-phrase agent adjectives follow nouns adverbs follow verbs particles/articles usually precede the modified word prepositions precede modified word/phrase derivation: many words in Qatama have more than one role, i.e. graq, is a verb meaning to eat, while also being the noun food, so, derivation is rare and usually affects adverbs and a few adjectives Qatama: kang - man / husband kangha - father kangla - uncle kangra - grandfather taj - boy / son / nephew taja - brother / male cousin mung - woman / wife mungha - mother mungla - aunt mungra - grandmother mungu - girl / daughter / niece munu - sister / female cousin the word ajum is used to denote relation through marriage Qatama: aga - color naga - yellow koga - red muga - blue oga - black uga - white on - dark un - light namuga - green konaga - orange komuga - purple tlaga - gray myoga - brown uyuga - silver koyuga - pink anuga - gold Qatama: English: anaq head anuq ear(s) ongo eye(s) okota heart toru back taruya hip/waist tara belly/stomach utar chest/breast nogra feet/toes anuja leg udan hand/arm qongo joint gan bone gua mouth/face ogua facial hair uha skin udanju fingers/knuckles dong nose g'tla shoulder qono muscle anaqra neck guata teeth guaja tongue unuq hair Qatama: nongla nja kun kumu nongla = reason-less / pointless nja = for / by kun = this kumu = to fight / battle / confront Qatama: kyala naj ta ngo kyala = neg. command marker naj = to / towards ta = 1PS ngo = to look / see / stare How does your conlang handle clauses? Qatama: ruq /ruq/ = general clause marker Qatama: kun al kuja muq aq muqla this ART question to-be or to-be-not Qatama culture is not very apologetic, however the best way to say 'sorry' is: kya damju ta kya = command marker damju = to forgive / forgiveness ta = 1PS So you tell someone to forgive you, if they comply then the matter is settled, if not a common phrase heard is: ngoj damju mua ta ngoj = without / apart mua = to go / travel I go without forgiveness. "Ok fine, don't forgive me, see ya." Qatama vowels: /a/ <a> /o/ <o> /u/ <u> /v/ <'> /?/, yes I use it as a vowel, sometimes realized as /e/ <'> diphthongs /wa/ <ua>, /aU/ <ao> (rare) Qatama uses a plural particle uj between /udZ/ and /utS/, that occurs before the pluralized noun. al q'ma aj Qatama The military of Qatama is integrated into the fabric of the tribes and clans, as well as the government. Omoq = Emperor, responsible for governing the empire, considered the 'commander in chief' of all imperial forces. Kagan = Overlord, responsible for the governance of a realm, appointed by the Omoq. Usually a clan leader, occasionally a tribe leader, inherently responsible for the ruling of said clan and daily business. Commands a q'ma, ~ 50,000 warriors. Qan = Lord, responsible for the governance of a region (subdivision of a realm). A Lord is also the traditional leader of a familial clan, can also lead a brotherhood or order. Commands a qada ~ 20,000 warriors. Kanaq = Warlord, appointed by a Kagan, most often in time of war, but not uncommonly as commanders of policing units. Warlords give up ascension rights within a clan to gain this appointment as Kanaq is seen as a purely militaristic posting. Qan Maj = Lord Commander, not a rank of nobility, simply the highest military rank within a q'dom, ~ 5000 warriors Maj = Commander/Chief, responsible for governance of a city/village. A Maj is also the traditional leader of an extended family within a city/village. Commands a q'tan, ~ 100 - 500 warriors. Q'toj = Lord Warrior, also not nobility, simply the highest rank in the warrior class. Serves at the side of a Qan all of the way down to a Maj. This position is similar to a senior enlisted advisor in today's armed forces. This position is lifelong once appointed. Tojra = Master Warrior, responsible for the training of warriors and apprentices, works hand in hand with the Q'toj to insure that all needs are attented to. Toj = Warrior. Gulha/Gul = Apprentice. The difference between a gulha and a gul is the length of time in training, the gulha having trained longer. Qatama: 1) aj, meaning of or from tamu aj Qang /tamuaZqaN/ lit: House of Qang. 2) possesive pronouns, m'- /mv/ prefix tamu m'ta /tamumvta/ or /tamumta/ lit: House mine/my. I don't know what I should do. I don't know what to do. Qatama: aj nuda daru muja mongla ta aj nuda muja mongla ta uq = future ung = past ngam = not yet complete ngun = negative past tense The man who loves his wife. koj mung m'nada ruq al kang koj = to love mung = woman / wife m'nada = 3PS-masc-POS ruq = general clause marker al = general article kang = man / husband lit: love wife his 'ruq' the man I believe that Qatama is a beautiful language. al tlaq qatama aya amha ta tlaq = language / dialect aya = beautiful / pretty amha = to believe / belief ta = 1PS lit: the language Qatama beautiful believe I My child, who is 5 foot tall. Qatama as a culture, has no measurment for height. Pronouns. ta = 1PS taka = 1PPL-inclusive ta'aq = 1PPL-exclusive ga = 2PS gaj = 2PPL gahan = 2P-polite, used for both S and PL na = epicene pronoun nada = 3PS masc naya = 3PS fem nara = 3PPL nuda = general indefinite pronoun m'- = possesive prefix ayu = reflexive marker / self Al Qumu Kaya This annual event is a cultural celebration of battle, brotherhood and survival. The Qumu Kaya is a great gathering of all Qatama clans in a region. Usually, there will be as many as five or six separate Qumu Kayas occuring in a year, one for each region. The Qumu Kaya is usually hosted by the largest and strongest Qatama clan in the area. Each Qumu Kaya will be a gathering of a dozen or more clans. The Qumu Kayas are usually held in early autumn, but this varies. The Qumu Kaya lasts three days. The Qumu Kaya includes many forms of martial competition including wrestling, archery, team competitions and scrimmage battles. Tests of bravery include fire jumping and blade tossing. a Qatama End-blown, notched flute known as a myatla. a three-stringed fretless plucked musical instrument called a doruka, has a dry, somewhat percussive tone and loud volume it is primarily used as an accompanying instrument with the koto and myatla. As a culture, the Qatama have little organized religion. Worship for the majority of Qatama is a very personal thing, not to be cluttered up with ritual and protocol. On occasion, the Qatama may gather to meditate or sing or pray, but such is usually spontaneous and natural.. Only those Qatama who travel and interact with other cultures ever adopt the worship of deities. moju = to write, scribe, written word / book moju ta = I write moju ga = you write moju na = he/she/it writes moju nada = he writes moju naya = she writes moju ta'aq = we (exclusive) write moju taka = we (inclusive) write moju gaj = you (plural) write moju nara = they write ------------------------------------------------------------ past tense ung moju ta = I wrote ung moju ga = you wrote ung moju na = he/she/it wrote ung moju nada = he wrote ung moju naya = she wrote ung moju ta'aq = we (exclusive) wrote ung moju taka = we (inclusive) wrote ung moju gaj = you (plural) wrote ung moju nara = they wrote future tense replace ung with uq, to negate it place nga at the begining and to turn it into a question place qa at the end: uq moju ga = you will write nga moju ga = you are not writing moju ga qa = are you writing? uj makes the noun form plural uj moju = writings / books The Qatama Imperial Banner. al gongra aj Qatam

Euphoria- 07-31-2007

can you translate some sentences into qatama? I'd like to see it)

Sano- 07-31-2007

can you translate some sentences into qatama? I'd like to see it) There are sentences translated above, unless you had specific requests.

Sano- 12-10-2007

I thought some here would like to see that I'm dusting off Qatama and airing it out. Grammar Qatama Culture Just watch the Category for updates. I plan to stay busy updating as much as possible.

endymion-- 12-13-2007

Finally! It is nice to see Qatama back. I am a bit confused by how it handles clauses. So does ruq just handle major stand-alone clauses or can it also be applied for relatives, and attributes (this could be done probably by adjectives)?

Sano- 12-13-2007

I am a bit confused by how it handles clauses. So does ruq just handle major stand-alone clauses or can it also be applied for relatives, and attributes (this could be done probably by adjectives)? I am still ironing out the kinks.

endymion-- 12-14-2007

Okay, since you are still ironing out the kinks, I have a question that still running on my head. I understand that Qatama is not a new project, it at least 2-3 years I think, has the language changed anyhow from when you first conceptualized it? I am interested in this sentence too: kangaja uj naru muta Qatama Everyone should speak Qatama. Is this still the same for your Qatama at the moment?

Sano- 12-14-2007

has the language changed anyhow from when you first conceptualized it? Yes. "Everyone should speak Qatama." muta Qatama daru aja

Sano- 12-30-2007

I'm looking for suggestions for additions, changes and improvements of this page. Are there aspects of grammar that I should add? What are they? Is there anything I should remove? What sections need to be expanded or improved? Please, be blunt and brutal.

qanuk- 12-30-2007

Wow, I think you've really covered a lot of bases, giving detailed cultural and linguistic information. I think the layout is user-friendly and understandable. I may have missed it somewhere, but I was wondering why Qatama doesn't have any front vowels such as or , but only back vowels?

Sano- 12-30-2007

I may have missed it somewhere, but I was wondering why Qatama doesn't have any front vowels such as or , but only back vowels? When I first began conlanging, about 19 years ago, I had no idea what the hell I was doing. Qatama is only about 10 y/o now, but as I have learned more and more about conlanging and linguistics in general, I decided not to scrap Qatama, but attempt to explain it in a better way. Essentially, Qatama has no front vowels for aesthetic reasons. When assembling the phonemic inventory, I decided to leave out <i> and <e> at a time when I was very unsatisfied with English.

fmra- 12-30-2007

Don't be honest. Claim that they fell into /@/ at some point in ancient history... :)

Sano- 12-30-2007

Don't be honest. Claim that they fell into /@/ at some point in ancient history... :) Believe me, if I knew more about historical linguistics, or how languages change over time, I would try to come up with a more colorful explanation.

qanuk- 12-30-2007

You could say that they feel that front vowels make words sound trivial, perhaps. I think I read a long time ago that words regarding smallness or triviality (at least in English) often have front vowels more than not. Probably some sort of subconscious thing.

Sano- 12-30-2007

You could say that they feel that front vowels make words sound trivial, perhaps. Well, back when I began with Qatama, it was actually that I didn't like the ambiguity of <i> and <e> in English...it seemed as though they could just about represent any sound... I think I read a long time ago that words regarding smallness or triviality (at least in English) often have front vowels more than not. I have learned that is a widely held misconception, best set of examples; big and small completely destroys the idea IMO. Probably some sort of subconscious thing. Let us please not travel down the theoretical road here...in this thread, please. I'm just looking for suggestions for improvement of the Qatama grammar page.

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