My Return / New Lang Idea

My Return / New Lang Idea
I've come back, as Sano has (indirectly) asked me, and I'm bored with a general slowness everywhere else I am. I've had a new idea for a lang that I couldn't figure out where to post (since I don't want to just post it everywhere), so I thought I'd post it here. It's really more just like an idea than anything else yet; it needs a lot of work. Phonology isn't completely worked out, but I know that it's something like this: /t d k T D s z S Z x h m n N K K\ 4 l/ /a e i M/ (may add rounded vowels, can't decide; and I'm kinda big on fricatives) Syllable structure is (C)V (my favorite), allowing for /t k 4 l/ to end words. It also allows the affricates /tT dD kx/. I'm trying to make it as agglutinative as possible without it being polysynthetic. The intent is to avoid short, individual morphemes like particles as much as possible. I'm basing a lot of the verbal grammar off of Classical Japanese, while nominal grammar is coming from nowhere in particular. I think I'm going to go with a fluid-s-like morphosyntactically. I'm not sure how to describe much more of it, and I'm running short on time, so I'll leave it at that for now.

I've come back, as Sano has (indirectly) asked me How so? and I'm bored with a general slowness everywhere else I am. Have you tried the ZBB? That's the most moving conlanging forum I've seen. and I'm kinda big on fricatives ...Are you sure? ;) (More phonology comments.) I've always been intrigued by how /dD/ is pronounced. I love the /kx/ affricate. (C)V eh? Looks like you go for simplicity. Nice. Keep posting!

Phonology looks good, though I see /K/ twice. Is there a reason or was it mistyped? Also, I'd allow for any or all of /n N m/ to appear at the end of a word, but that's just me. I've always liked the idea of /tT/ and /dD/, so I am definitely looking forward to seeing those in your lang. What is it going to be used for? Or just making it for the hell of it? I usually at least come up with a conculture while I work on the langs I make, and usually an idea of the time period, s'why I am asking.

Welcome Back. The lang looks interesting, I look forward to seeing more of it.

I've come back, as Sano has (indirectly) asked me How so? I'm not sure if I can explain well. and I'm bored with a general slowness everywhere else I am. Have you tried the ZBB? That's the most moving conlanging forum I've seen. I've heard there's a lot of flaming and negative criticism there. I'd probably end up getting flamed for getting mad at people for flaming. (C)V eh? Looks like you go for simplicity. Nice. I'm in love with Japanese's syllable structure, and I can't seem to get away from it even if I try (but I don't try too hard). Also, I'd allow for any or all of /n N m/ to appear at the end of a word, but that's just me. I think I meant to put that. I always forget nasals when I'm typing phonologies. What is it going to be used for? Or just making it for the hell of it? I usually at least come up with a conculture while I work on the langs I make, and usually an idea of the time period, s'why I am asking. Yep, that's the purpose. It's partially for this project, but it's also since I realized the lang for my main conculture is highly improbable. I'm going to try to descend a couple of langs off of it (I've already got ideas for ways I can get rid of word-final consonants, but I need to figure out a way to get rid of /t d k/ and still be able to visibly differentiate between which one was originally there for grammatical reasons).

(C)V eh? Looks like you go for simplicity. Nice. I'm in love with Japanese's syllable structure, and I can't seem to get away from it even if I try (but I don't try too hard). I should think not, it's simplicity is elegant and refined to the point of beauty. I would venture a guess that most conlangers, at one point or another have made a C(V) lang because they had/have an affinity for Japanese.

I've heard there's a lot of flaming and negative criticism there. I'd probably end up getting flamed for getting mad at people for flaming. Ok. Understandable. I'm in love with Japanese's syllable structure, and I can't seem to get away from it even if I try (but I don't try too hard). I would venture a guess that most conlangers, at one point or another have made a C(V) lang because they had/have an affinity for Japanese. Interesting comment. So true...

an affinity for Japanese? That's curious, I guess that's why I never created just (C)V combinations and allowed several consonant clusters... because I've haven't had such an affinity, yet.

I should think not, it's simplicity is elegant and refined to the point of beauty. 'Nuff said. Quick question: I've been going through listing all the various things I'm going to mark on verbs, and I'm a little confused by Wikipedia's definition of something called 'inferential' mood. I want to have a mood like what it describes (i.e. reporting something that you haven't personally witnessed), but I also want one that seems to fit the name 'inferential' better - one for inferring something that you don't know based on evidence that you do know. Should I use 'inferential' for the reporting and come up with another name for the inferring, or should I call the first one 'reportative' and the second one 'inferential'? I'm having to come up with a lot of words for moods...

Since I have no idea how to make tables with phpBB code, I have to take screenshots to get this. These lists are probably not all-inclusive and will certainly need revision, but they're a start: Everything verbs inflect for Everything nouns inflect for Affixes are added in order from left to right, columns are lists of affixes that cannot appear together. And I had to come up with a lot of names and they're probably all horrible.

I would venture a guess that most conlangers, at one point or another have made a C(V) lang because they had/have an affinity for Japanese. Well, I DO like Japanese, but a big chunk of why I like (C)V langs is that making lists of allowable clusters is boring. :) On topic - Love it! Very Native American in style - my fave. My lang Taalen has similar morphology goals... On the Inferential Mood - Yep, Inferential is right, and having an additional reportative mood is common. One implies guessing on one's own from available data, and the other is basically "I heard that..." or "I read that...". No inferring happening, just reporting, usually from implied reliable sources. It seems like Wikipedia's entry is a bit off, in this case.

Everything verbs inflect for Everything nouns inflect for Affixes are added in order from left to right, columns are lists of affixes that cannot appear together.These are great! Inspirational, too. Thanks! Since I have no idea how to make tables with phpBB code, I have to take screenshots to get this. These lists are probably not all-inclusive and will certainly need revision, but they're a start: ..... And I had to come up with a lot of names and they're probably all horrible.Still. Inspirational. Thanks!

What do you mean, inspirational? You don't mean I'm inspiring you, do you...? *is surprised* And I didn't realize it was all that Native American, but I guess it kind of is. I haven't taken much of a look at Native American languages though. Now I have to come up with forms for all of these.....

Everything verbs inflect for Everything nouns inflect for This looks pretty interesting, but I'm a little confused. Are these templates, in that each of these slots has an affix associated with it, and if so, where does the root go? Or are they just lists.

Are these templates, in that each of these slots has an affix associated with it, and if so, where does the root go? Or are they just lists. Yeah, there is (will be :oops: ) an affix corresponding to each one of those slots. The root goes at the very beginning, before negative. The ones down are kind of lists though, since you can't have more than one of the affixes in a column at a time.

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