I made a cipher. Al Ilam = 'The Code'
It's a cipher for English.
Here's how it works...in a nutshell:
forever > frvr > uzmj > uzmija /uz."mi.Za:/
I've also begun to tweak how the grammar changes, which is lending to a result that sounds/looks like a con-lang.
Example:
Oshaqa neja?
/o."Sa.Xa:-"n@.Za:/
PAST-go-2PPL where
Where did you go?
fmra- 10-19-2007
smoked wax > smkdwx > bbbbbb > bibabubibabu
Sorry, I don't understand, I'm just kinda being a jerk and playing with it. How do you choose which letter to assign and how easy is it to translate back... say if you didn't know that^ was supposed to be "smoked wax"...
Sano- 10-19-2007
Sorry, I don't understand
NP. 8)
I'm just kinda being a jerk and playing with it.
You're barely scratching the surface of jerk-ness, no worries.
The code is meant to be messed with.
How do you choose which letter to assign >
Well, it's really an arbitrary and aesthetic choice, but it does have to match the chart.
...how easy is it to translate back >
Well, it's not meant to be easy, the code is intentionally arbitrary, for 2 main reasons; 1) to give me latitude in creating the vocabulary 2) to create more potential combinations / reduce redundancy
say if you didn't know that^ was supposed to be "smoked wax"...
Well, I would make it a point to avoid these types of issues. Keep in mind the grammar changes that I am working on will aid in this not being as much of an issue.
smoke wax > smk|wx > bdk ng > engu obdek /"e.Nu-"ob.d@k/
bedek - v. smoke (infinitive) > obdek (o- PAST) - to have smoked / smoked
And with the reversal of adj-n > n-adj the scenario you suggest still possible, but the code is intentionally rendered to avoid this.
Hakaku- 10-19-2007
So somehow somewhere, hello becomes hll > itsh? How would you distinguish hello from hell?
Sano- 10-19-2007
So somehow somewhere, hello becomes hll > itsh? How would you distinguish hello from hell?
hello > hl > qt > qita /"qi.ta:/
hell > hl > ysh > uyeshai /u."j@.Sai:/
It's a matter of choosing to distinguish them.
fmra- 10-20-2007
I like this. Its less a secret code cipher and more of an "easy way to build lexical items" cipher. well done. :)
Tolkien_Freak- 10-20-2007
It's slightly confusing, but nice. I may pirate your idea a little for a new conlang.
Sano- 10-20-2007
I like this. Its less a secret code cipher and more of an "easy way to build lexical items" cipher. well done. :)
Yeah, that is a better way of describing it, thanks.
It's slightly confusing, but nice. I may pirate your idea a little for a new conlang.
Please do, it's quite helpful, and far less taxing on the brain than trying to randomly generate vocab.
Tolkienaic- 10-28-2007
Oh wow, that's cool. How long did it take to come up with this?
You could just about construct a fully functioning conlang with this thing...
So, just so I understand, it could be used somewhat like this?
take > tk > kb > keb
took > tk > kb > okob
taken > tkn > kb > ukeba
And vowels are basically up to the user's preference?
-T
Sano- 10-29-2007
How long did it take to come up with this?
Only about 30 min.
You could just about construct a fully functioning conlang with this thing...
Not just about, you can, and in my own time, I am.
So, just so I understand, it could be used somewhat like this?
take > tk > kb > keb
took > tk > kb > okob
taken > tkn > kb > ukeba
Yeah, that's a rough sketch of how I am using it.
And vowels are basically up to the user's preference?
Yeah, I think if a pattern is established though, it should be maintained... for consistancy.
Sano- 12-01-2007
Plural Nouns
-(a)b(a) indicates the plural.
-(a)b(a) does not change the original stress of the word: tila /ti."la:/, cat... tilab /ti."lab/ cats, dub /dub/, man... dubab /dub.ab/, men. Note that adjectives do not take plural endings.
If there are other words (such as bua (many) or numbers) that indicate plurality, the -(a)b(a) may be dropped.
fmra- 12-21-2007
While this was a great idea when it first went up, I already had a lexicon procedure worked out for Tekann, but now I'm interested in creating names, which seems to be giving me a hell of a time. So I'm swiping this idea to generate names according to Tekann phonotactics.
Sano, again, You're a genius (a little underappreciated in some circles, but genius none-the-less).
Sano- 12-22-2007
Sano, again, You're a genius (a little underappreciated in some circles, but genius none-the-less).
Stop, you're gonna make me blush...
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