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Sano- 10-19-2007
I made a cipher.
Al Ilam = 'The Code' It's a cipher for English. Here's how it works...in a nutshell: forever > frvr > uzmj > uzmija /uz."mi.Za:/ I've also begun to tweak how the grammar changes, which is lending to a result that sounds/looks like a con-lang. Example: Oshaqa neja? /o."Sa.Xa:-"n@.Za:/ PAST-go-2PPL where Where did you go?

fmra- 10-19-2007

smoked wax > smkdwx > bbbbbb > bibabubibabu Sorry, I don't understand, I'm just kinda being a jerk and playing with it. How do you choose which letter to assign and how easy is it to translate back... say if you didn't know that^ was supposed to be "smoked wax"...

Sano- 10-19-2007

Sorry, I don't understand NP. 8) I'm just kinda being a jerk and playing with it. You're barely scratching the surface of jerk-ness, no worries. The code is meant to be messed with. How do you choose which letter to assign Well, it's really an arbitrary and aesthetic choice, but it does have to match the chart. ...how easy is it to translate back Well, it's not meant to be easy, the code is intentionally arbitrary, for 2 main reasons; 1) to give me latitude in creating the vocabulary 2) to create more potential combinations / reduce redundancy say if you didn't know that^ was supposed to be "smoked wax"... Well, I would make it a point to avoid these types of issues. Keep in mind the grammar changes that I am working on will aid in this not being as much of an issue. smoke wax > smk|wx > bdk ng > engu obdek /"e.Nu-"ob.d@k/ bedek - v. smoke (infinitive) > obdek (o- PAST) - to have smoked / smoked And with the reversal of adj-n > n-adj the scenario you suggest still possible, but the code is intentionally rendered to avoid this.

Hakaku- 10-19-2007

So somehow somewhere, hello becomes hll > itsh? How would you distinguish hello from hell?

Sano- 10-19-2007

So somehow somewhere, hello becomes hll > itsh? How would you distinguish hello from hell? hello > hl > qt > qita /"qi.ta:/ hell > hl > ysh > uyeshai /u."j@.Sai:/ It's a matter of choosing to distinguish them.

fmra- 10-20-2007

I like this. Its less a secret code cipher and more of an "easy way to build lexical items" cipher. well done. :)

Tolkien_Freak- 10-20-2007

It's slightly confusing, but nice. I may pirate your idea a little for a new conlang.

Sano- 10-20-2007

I like this. Its less a secret code cipher and more of an "easy way to build lexical items" cipher. well done. :) Yeah, that is a better way of describing it, thanks. It's slightly confusing, but nice. I may pirate your idea a little for a new conlang. Please do, it's quite helpful, and far less taxing on the brain than trying to randomly generate vocab.

Tolkienaic- 10-28-2007

Oh wow, that's cool. How long did it take to come up with this? You could just about construct a fully functioning conlang with this thing... So, just so I understand, it could be used somewhat like this? take > tk > kb > keb took > tk > kb > okob taken > tkn > kb > ukeba And vowels are basically up to the user's preference? -T

Sano- 10-29-2007

How long did it take to come up with this? Only about 30 min. You could just about construct a fully functioning conlang with this thing... Not just about, you can, and in my own time, I am. So, just so I understand, it could be used somewhat like this? take > tk > kb > keb took > tk > kb > okob taken > tkn > kb > ukeba Yeah, that's a rough sketch of how I am using it. And vowels are basically up to the user's preference? Yeah, I think if a pattern is established though, it should be maintained... for consistancy.

Sano- 12-01-2007

Plural Nouns -(a)b(a) indicates the plural. -(a)b(a) does not change the original stress of the word: tila /ti."la:/, cat... tilab /ti."lab/ cats, dub /dub/, man... dubab /dub.ab/, men. Note that adjectives do not take plural endings. If there are other words (such as bua (many) or numbers) that indicate plurality, the -(a)b(a) may be dropped.

fmra- 12-21-2007

While this was a great idea when it first went up, I already had a lexicon procedure worked out for Tekann, but now I'm interested in creating names, which seems to be giving me a hell of a time. So I'm swiping this idea to generate names according to Tekann phonotactics. Sano, again, You're a genius (a little underappreciated in some circles, but genius none-the-less).

Sano- 12-22-2007

Sano, again, You're a genius (a little underappreciated in some circles, but genius none-the-less). Stop, you're gonna make me blush...

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