Enganagari alphabet

Enganagari alphabet
http://www.omniglot.com/writing/enganagari.php The Enganagari alphabet was invented by David Kelley as an alternative alphabet for English. It was modelled on the Devanagari alphabet with influence from the Korean alphabet. There are a number of different ways of writing English with Enganagari. The main difference between them is in the representation of vowels and diphthongs. The version below is the comprehensive form, which was developed to represent all the sounds of the English language, including both Standard American and British Received pronunciation. The vowels, here, attempts to replicate English speech rather than English spelling. The example text represents the pronunciation of Standard American. Although I don't see where the Korean inspiration comes in, there's definitely a Devanagari influence. And unlike most cyphers, I applaud the creator for providing IPA along side the symbols, and giving alternatives for American and British pronounciations. Overall the design was well thought out in my opinion.

Type of script: alphabet *shakes head in frustration*

I like the way there are alternate representations for consonantal <r> and r-coloring on vowels and the way he handles /l/ and /5/. I don't remember ever having seen these in neographies for English before. I actually had made a cipher a few years ago that did something similar - one dot above the vowel indicated that it was l-colored, and 3 dots or a circumflex indicated that it was r-colored. Though, I also did similar things for /n/ and /N/ for pretty much no reason.

I like it, it's cool. I agree that there is no obvious Korean influence, but that doesn't really detract from anything or anything. Type of script: alphabet That's definitely not an alphabet, but is it an abjad or an abugida? I can't tell, since it doesn't mention inherent vowel and I can't read the name at the top.

Type of script: alphabetThat's definitely not an alphabet, but is it an abjad or an abugida? I can't tell, since it doesn't mention inherent vowel and I can't read the name at the top.I think it is an alphabet; which is weird since Devanagari is an abugida and Han'gul is a (featurography-based-alphabet)-based-syllabary. I'm not sure why Sano's frustrated nor why you think it's not an alphabet; possibly I'm just missing something. I had assumed Sano thought turning Devanagari and Hangul into an alphabet was frustrating; I kind of agree if so.

"I'm not sure why Sano's frustrated " I can guess it's because it isnt fun.. even if it looks nice...

It's not an alphabet because the vowel signs are diacritics above the consonants. That's the definition of abjad. Sano may be frustrated due to mislabeling. edit: I think the one diacritic it is missing is 'syllabic consonant'.

It's not an alphabet because the vowel signs are diacritics above the consonants.I did miss that. It's in a "note". (Not much of an excuse for missing it, since it's the first note.) I think the one diacritic it is missing is 'syllabic consonant'. That's the definition of abjad.Yes, I would say it's more of an abjad, than an abugida. But writing in abjads normally doesn't denote the vowels at all; "pointing" (diacritical marks to indicate vowels) is optional in most abjads. Most abugidas OTOH have a default vowel to go with each consonant, and require diacritical marks to show any other vowel, and to show "no vowel". This is more abjad-like in that "no vowel" is the default and doesn't require a diacritical mark; but it is also somewhat abugida-like in that vowels must be marked. Sano may be frustrated due to mislabeling.Now that I realize it was mislabeled (thanks for pointing out why), I can see that's the likeliest explanation. Maybe someone should e-mail Simon Ager and point out this one has been mislabeled? I don't know what address or website to send such a notification to.

TF, is right about my frustration and not just that it was mislabeled but that anyone would even think to try and make an alphabet based on an alphasyllabary/abugida...it's much depressing that there is an apparent lack of original scripts floating around and that people are relying on natscripts do the job for them. If you want the perfect script, for a con-lang, or even for a code amongst your friends, make one...from scratch.

If you want the perfect script, for a con-lang, or even for a code amongst your friends, make one...from scratch. Fully agreed. Any script I make for a specific lang, I always make to fit. I try to capture as many of the peculiarities of the lang as I can and also try to make the 'feel' of the script the same as the 'feel' of the lang. And I think I would call it an abjad still, even if it is pointed, just because abugidas are defined by the fact that they have an inherent vowel and this doesn't.

If you want the perfect script, for a con-lang, or even for a code amongst your friends, make one...from scratch.Fully agreed. Any script I make for a specific lang, I always make to fit. I try to capture as many of the peculiarities of the lang as I can and also try to make the 'feel' of the script the same as the 'feel' of the lang.Agreed. And I think I would call it("it"=Enganagari)an abjad still, even if it is pointed, just because abugidas are defined by the fact that they have an inherent vowel and this doesn't.Agreed. I thought I said so? IMO (or ANAICT) it's an abjad with some abugida-like leanings.

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