Edo, eat your heart out...

Edo, eat your heart out...
http://www.sacred-texts.com/atl/ataw/ataw307.htm When you read this article, please be completely sober and conscious of the fact that a large portion of what you see on the internet is total crap. The article even starts out with this statement; <Transcribers note: the argument in this section heavily depends on the Bishop Landa Maya alphabet, which has now been discredited. The Mayan writing was not decoded until late in the 20th Century. Mayan hieroglyphs are ideographic with a phonetic component, albeit not the ones that Landa described. The only thing demonstrated in this section is the evolution of the alphabet in the Old World, which has no bearing on the question of Atlantis--jbh> I found the idea of correlation to be interesting from an academic standpoint, but the notion of Atlantis has always seemed quite fanciful to me.

I'm surprised people still don't realize that the notion of Atlantis was invented by Plato. It's not real if it's invented.

I'm surprised people still don't realize that the notion of Atlantis was invented by Plato. It's not real if it's invented. Tread carefully, your sound a bit like a skeptic... ;) Next you'll be saying that Santa Claus and the Easter bunny are "invented" too...

I'm surprised people still don't realize that the notion of Atlantis was invented by Plato. It was? I thought it was regarded as possible (maybe even probable) that he got it (indirectly, perhaps) from Solon, who got it from some Greek-speaking priest in Egypt. It's not real if it's invented.Even if Plato didn't invent it, it's possible (maybe even probable) that someone did.

It was? I thought it was regarded as possible (maybe even probable) that he got it (indirectly, perhaps) from Solon, who got it from some Greek-speaking priest in Egypt. And it was. The Egyptian probably created an elaborate story by jazzing up an island that really did meet it's demise. There was this show that said that "Atlantis" was real, but not in the popular sense. There was, and still is part, of an island that meets the geographical requirements that was blown to pieces by a volcano and earthquake (which caused massive flooding), which met its doom not 9000 years (months, moons, I can't recall the unit) but 900 before. However, the people from the mostly likely Atlantis candidate did not have any remarkable technologies. It was just an ordinary island. It was interesting, until it got to the part about how the Antlanteans created Egypt. Please do not use the quick reply feature, it causes issues with the board.

There was this show that said that "Atlantis" was real, but not in the popular sense. There was, and still is part, of an island that meets the geographical requirements that was blown to pieces by a volcano and earthquake (which caused massive flooding), which met its doom not 9000 years (months, moons, I can't recall the unit) but 900 before. However, the people from the mostly likely Atlantis candidate did not have any remarkable technologies. It was just an ordinary island. It was interesting, until it got to the part about how the Antlanteans created Egypt. Thera? It was indeed technologically ordinary, though the volcano preserved some great archaeological finds at Akrotiri. I once saw a presentation about 'Thera and Atlantis', but the guy never actually got around to talking about the Atlantis part.

Please do not use the quick reply feature Sorry about that. The name escapes me, but all he really said was that if you turned the 9000 into 900 then the island became a very good Atlantis candidate. Back to the original thing, after skimming the article, I've found nothing about cuneiform. I thought cuneiform was the original writing.

The name escapes me, but all he really said was that if you turned the 9000 into 900 then the island became a very good Atlantis candidate. Back to the original thing, after skimming the article, I've found nothing about cuneiform. I thought cuneiform was the original writing. Atlantis isn't the main reason I posted the link, but I will say this; it's no more real than aliens, or ghosts. It's like a rumor at an elementary school lunch table, if it gets passed around enough, all of the kids will believe it.

Please do not use the quick reply featureThe name escapes me, but all he really said was that if you turned the 9000 into 900 then the island became a very good Atlantis candidate.Right; Greek-speakers in Greece and Greek-speakers in Egypt had different meanings for the word "chiliad" (or whatever the related term was); it meant "thousand" to the Greek Greeks and "hundred" to the Egyptian Greeks, much as for some time "billion" meant "million million" to the English English and "thousand million" to the American English. Also, it turns out that the words for "between" and for "bigger than" are similar -- one can mis-hear or mis-spell one for the other. Maybe "bigger than Asia and Africa" was really "between Asia and Africa". Also, it turns out there were two formations called "the Pillars of Hercules"; not only the straits of Gibraltar, but also another formation much closer to the middle of the Mediterranean. Thera does qualify as "beyond the Pillars of Hercules" if this now-lesser-known formation was meant; just as it qualifies as "between Africa and Asia", especially when we remember that "Asia" meant "Asia Minor" and "Africa" meant the area dominated by Carthage. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- But I still like the guys that think South America was meant. And I get a kick out of the guys that think Antarctica was meant. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Atlantis isn't the main reason I posted the link, What was, exactly? I have great difficulty following the argument(s?) in the article. What did you get out of it that you thought we'd want to read? If I know that, maybe I can go back and read it again and get what you wanted us to get.

What did you get out of it that you thought we'd want to read? The supposed history of writing systems.

What did you get out of it that you thought we'd want to read?The supposed history of writing systems.Oh; well, that makes sense, since that's the title of the chapter. But the author's exposition is so hard for me to follow I can't see what, specifically, is ludicrous about it; it seems to be pretty much littered with jumps-to-conclusions and wrong-turns and violations of the maxim "when you hear hoofbeats, don't think 'zebras'; think 'horses'".

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