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fmra- 07-31-2007
Challenge for you Conscriptors
Driving along in the mind-numbing traffic of LA the other day, I thought, wouldn't it be interesting to see a conscript based off Tetris, where all the pieces fit together? Now I'm sure this isn't new, or original, but let me put down the rules and you can decide if you want to try. I will not try myself, because I suck. :) There are seven pieces in Tetris > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Tetrominoes_IJLO_STZ_Worlds.svg Each (except the box) has four different orientations (25 in total). The letters must be fit together (just like Tetris), but must remain legible. Describe how to read the script. Bonus points if it looks pretty. if you need to, use color to differentiate the letters for reading, but the color can't have any real value (blue marks long vowels. no,no,no) You can assign any mixture of vowels and consonants to the available symbols, but it must be humanly possible to pronounce the end product (bkgspgrlr is kinda hard to say) Now since I haven't tried it, I don't know if my own challenge is possible, but it couldn't hurt to find out if it doesn't and why not. :)

Sano- 07-31-2007

Methinks you make it too easy. You shall have my attempt in a few days.

Sano- 08-02-2007

Heghlu'meH QaQ jajvam A Klingon inspired version. 8) I win.

fmra- 08-02-2007

I don't know about winning, but you did a really good job... Except block rotations were supposed to differentiate letters, and color wasn't supposed to have any linguistic value... Still very good... seeing as you were the only one brave enough to try... so I guess you do win :)

Sano- 08-02-2007

Well, I couldn't use the original image, problems with saving it, so when I started to edit what I had I realized that I need to have individual blocks and that rotation would be needed for putting together the words rather than differentiating phonemic value. Oh, btw, the colors don't have any phonetic significance.

Tolkien_Freak- 08-03-2007

Actually, it looks like they do - diff between Q and r.

Sano- 08-03-2007

Actually, it looks like they do - diff between Q and r. if you need to, use color to differentiate the letters for reading, but the color can't have any real value (blue marks long vowels. no,no,no) Look at what fmra wrote. kthxbye. Edit: Also, he said: Each (except the box) has four different orientations (25 in total). Which is actually incorrect, there are only 19 by his rules. See here: http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/6623/tetrisew6.gif If you can think of a language, other than toki pona or some other pidgin that has fewer than 20 separate phonemes, go for it.

Kaiouforever- 09-21-2007

Actually, it looks like they do - diff between Q and r. if you need to, use color to differentiate the letters for reading, but the color can't have any real value (blue marks long vowels. no,no,no) Look at what fmra wrote. kthxbye. Edit: Also, he said: Each (except the box) has four different orientations (25 in total). Which is actually incorrect, there are only 19 by his rules. See here: http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/6623/tetrisew6.gif If you can think of a language, other than toki pona or some other pidgin that has fewer than 20 separate phonemes, go for it. If you are differentiating Q and R by simply color, isn't that a violation? I believe "real value" should include differentiating between two different phonemes, unless Q and R are the same sound.

Sano- 09-21-2007

Why hello, Kaiouforever! How are you and welcome to the forum, very nice initial post. Perhaps your attempt at the callenge is next for us?

Kaiouforever- 09-21-2007

Why hello, Kaiouforever! How are you and welcome to the forum, very nice initial post. Perhaps your attempt at the callenge is next for us? Thanks! This kind of logic puzzle is just the kind of thing I do for homework... which is why I don't think I'll be attempting this any time soon. :lol: I am still confused though about using color to add "real value" to a phoneme...can the OP please add a little more detail about this? Thanks. =>

Tolkien_Freak- 09-21-2007

What he means by 'real value' is that you can only use shape to differentiate separate phonemes, color cannot be significant in any way. You can use it to differentiate separate letters, but it can't actually mean anything.

Sano- 09-21-2007

What he means by 'real value' is that you can only use shape to differentiate separate phonemes, color cannot be significant in any way. You can use it to differentiate separate letters, but it can't actually mean anything. Thank you TF, I've been trying to think of a nice way to state that exact sentiment since K4 first posted.

fmra- 09-21-2007

thanks TF, thats exactly what I meant. :)

Kaiouforever- 09-21-2007

What he means by 'real value' is that you can only use shape to differentiate separate phonemes, color cannot be significant in any way. You can use it to differentiate separate letters, but it can't actually mean anything. Thanks. => I'm looking forward to seeing more additions by members...this truly is one wicked puzzle!

Mambawaba- 09-26-2007

well.. dunno if i got too far away from the original concept, but i really like the challenge. i supose that a civilization that used tetris as a script would only have that limited number of phonemes(or at least letters...) that is what from what i could get, 19. ok diferent sounds could be made of doubling letters and stuff like that.. anyway im not doing a language so i will not care more about it. here is what i sketchet out. the idea is that they evolved from a script more written on stone to a more simplistic and cursive one.... like we did.. alphabet example rules: -write from down to top as the game -lines cant be more than 10 width (blocks.. dont know what to call them) -lines cant be more than 4 of height the maximum height of a tetromino -changing line doesnt do anything, you just continue reading on the upper line even if a word is broken. -the single block is the space, in that line, the column of that block cant have anything else. - you count the width of a line with intersection of the tetrominos as in the game.. see example maybe is more clear - in a line you read from right to left, and when you write you have to make clear what the tetrominos order is, if that means opening a space to the right, you must do it. cant remember anything else, and i dont know why would someone like to write like that many rules instead of just right to left, but then it wouldnt be tetris. sorry for my english... hope you like it.

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